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Message started by msrvfx on Jan 24th, 2005 at 7:20am

Title: Wagner Safety Planer
Post by msrvfx on Jan 24th, 2005 at 7:20am
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I have been hearing about a Wagner Sfety Planer that works in a drill press for thickness planing necks, headstocks, and soundboards. Stew Mac sells tehm as well as Woodcraft for @ $44.
http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tools/Planes/1/Wagner_Safe-T-Planer/Instructions/I-0485.html

Do any of you have experience with them?

Mark

Title: Re: Wagner Safety Planer
Post by Road_Toad on Jan 24th, 2005 at 7:26pm
I've used one for 4 years and it's a great way to profile both the neck & the back of the peghead. I run the top side of the neck on a jointer to get it flat and then attach a small wood strip about 5mm thick to the top of the neck with double stick tape just before the peghead breakover. That yields a 5mm taper from the heel to the peghead. I typically take off about 2mm or slightly less off at a pass until I reach the right neck thickness. Do the same thing on the peghead without adding the wood 'taper' strip. It's best to run the drill press at a higher speed ~3000+ rpm. Also, be careful not to plane too far into the area of the peghead breakover- it's better to clean that up with a microplane or rasp. I posted a couple pictures at the below link under the 005M neck safe-T-planer .jpgs

http://f2.pg.briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/roadtoadmusic@sbcglobal.net/lst?.dir=/ukes&.view=l

Owen


Title: Re: Wagner Safety Planer
Post by msrvfx on Jan 25th, 2005 at 11:49am
Thanks Owen.
Have you attempted using it for thicknessing a soundboard, back, or sides?

Mark

Title: Re: Wagner Safety Planer
Post by Road_Toad on Jan 25th, 2005 at 5:46pm
Hi Mark

I have a performax drum sander, so I've never even contemplated using the Safe-T-Planer to thickness soundboard, back or sides. I guess it could be done, but I would have reservation putting a really thin piece of wood under what is basically 3 rotating blades... I would worry about splitting or tearing the wood if one of the blades caught the edge of the piece. If you do attempt to thickness very thin stock such as back or sides, I would make sure those are secured to a thicker flat board. Still a nice tool.

Owen

Title: Re: Wagner Safety Planer
Post by msrvfx on Jan 26th, 2005 at 1:36pm
Thanks owen-

I'm thinking that first I should have the sound board on a very stiff flat support bed to eliminate flexing, then I have seen a few wood hold down jigs for the wood, use a fence that the wood sets next to, and make sure rthe rotation of the planing head would tend to move the wood towards the fence.
can't afford a thickness sander now, or I would go that route.

Thanks,

Mark

Title: Re: Wagner Safety Planer
Post by ukeman on Jan 28th, 2005 at 11:39am
aloha...hey I've used the wagner safety planer too but not for soundoard thicknessesing. Think you would be better off with a sharp plane, like the good old days and I've thicknessed guitar plates using a sharp plane, no sweat! The key is SHARP.
You could also use a router with a 3/4" diameter straight bit. Mount router on a flat retangular board that is way wider than what you want to route. Make a workboard with equal thick runners on each side (left and right) of workboard and double stick tape your piece to be thicknessed on workboard. Place mounted router on the runners of the workboard,Adjust depth of cut to the thickness desired and route, by moving the mounted router left to right.The finished product will not be dead smooth but certainly thicknessed. A sanding block or a palm sander with clean up the slight surface imperfection and get you to working thickness.  Laters  ukeman
In any case double stick tape is a good way to hold your plates flat!

Title: Re: Wagner Safety Planer
Post by Mark Roberts on Jan 28th, 2005 at 1:52pm
Thanks Ukeman. that's a good tip too.
Good talking with you on the phone the other day.

Mark

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